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I think we missed a golden opportunity

Lanier63 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:17 -0000

Sitting here reading the posts and thinking back on last years camp when the players arrived, we could have made an impact on the team this year.

We should have all help to create a new poster for Herm to WELCOME the guys to camp again the same way he did last year when the buses pulled up. One of you guys in KC town could have delivered it over to the Stadium, courtesy of Arrowhead Pride!

I knew I shouldn't have done so many shots when I was in college...

Flowers signed!

Vince D — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:54:25 -0000

Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Wednesday that the club has agreed to terms of a four-year contract with CB Brandon Flowers. As per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available.

The Chiefs have now agreed to terms with nine of their 12 draft picks from the 2008 draft class. Flowers joins third-round selections RB Jamaal Charles (73rd overall), TE Brad Cottam (76th overall) and S DaJuan Morgan (82nd overall), fourth-round pick WR Will Franklin (105th overall), fifth-round selection CB Brandon Carr (140th overall), sixth-round picks T Barry Richardson (170th overall) and WR Kevin Robinson (182nd overall) and seventh-round pick DE Brian Johnston (210th overall).

Flowers (5-9, 187) joined the Chiefs as the club’s second-round pick (35th overall) in the 2008 NFL Draft. He played in 41 games with 28 starts, opening his final 27 contests at Virginia Tech. He recorded 158 tackles (99 solo) with 17.0 stops for loss (-71.0 yards), 3.5 sacks (-28.0 yards) and 10 interceptions for 172 yards with two TDs. He also produced 32 passes defensed, one fumble recovery and one forced fumble.

Flowers started all 14 contests for the Hokies in 2007, tallying a career-high 86 tackles (56 solo), including 8.0 stops for loss (-24.0 yards). He added five interceptions for 93 yards with a TD, nine passes defensed and a fumble recovery. He was a first-team All-America selection by the American Coaches Association and earned first-team All-Atlantic Coast Conference honors.

The Delray Beach, Florida native led Atlantic High School to the Class 5A regional title as a senior, earning first-team all-area and all-conference honors. He also played one season at Hargrave Military Academy in Chatham, Virginia.

-www.kcchiefs.com

Why are the Chiefs so underestimated?

Vince D — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:21:22 -0000

Most of the predictions I see about the Chiefs this year say that they not only won't make the playoffs, but they won't even be a .500 team. What makes people think that?

Yeah, last year was pretty bad... but we also had our star running back injured, an offensive line in shambles, and a competition at the quarterback position. This year, the offensive line is in place (with limited "projects" too) which is already a huge upgrade, a healthy running back with a 3rd round pick to back him up, and a quarterback that can scramble (at least compared to Huard and Green). So why aren't the Chiefs playoff contenders? Because we are "young"?

Not to mention that the defense has improved every year dramatically, with more signs of improving. And with targets like Gonzales, Johnson, and Bowe, how bad do they think Croyle is gonna be?

Anyone else have opinions on this?

Jamaal Charles

KcPriest31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:04:33 -0000

I really like Jamaal charles, The kid is fast as can be..Plus i think hes a great change of pace back to compliment LJ. He average just about 6.3 hards per carry at Texas and ran a 4.3 something at the combine.

But my question here is does anyone think he will be out kolby smith for the #2 back...nothing against Smith, he did a good job while LJ was out but i think charles has got a lot of talent.

And if he does beat out Smith for the #2 back how much do you think he will get to contribute on offense?

Excitement begins to build

Lanier63 — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:20:54 -0000

The website is up and running for the 2008 University of Rover Falls Chiefs Training Camp. They have already posted two daily updates, one of which comments on the training staff moving all of the equipment up there.

I regret to inform those who may have heard earlier, that I will not be able to go to the camp this year. I had planned on attending the 28th through the 31st sending back twice daily updates with pics.

Here is the link for those who may not have it.

http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/

Then there were 85

WolfFan — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:07:26 -0000

There is another name missing from the roster this morning. Running Back Kalvin MacRae is no longer listed. I know some of us thought all of the Running Backs would make camp, but I guess Herm hasn't been reading our blog.

I have a file built that goes out and checks the roster for changes. I don't know whether it's better to just add a comment to an existing post or create a new one. I'm not sure people notice a new comment on a post that is a few days old.

Brodie Croyle is no Troy Aikman.... Is he?

ChiefDJ — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:41:10 -0000

From the FanPosts. -Chris

Great article by Jon Yoon over at MVN about Brodie Croyle and his unpopularity with the national media. Kind of got me thinking.

I don't know what the grudge the media (and some Chiefs fans) have against Croyle is. Its nearing an unreasoned hatred, as though he was the worst QB prospect to come into the NFL in years, which is clearly ridiculous.

Whenever defending him, we always have to say things like "Well he did better than Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman in their first years starting.... NOT THAT CROYLE IS AT THAT GOOD!" We are always quick to add that last part in so as to try to prove how open minded and unbiased we are, just like people who espouse a religious belief and then quickly try to explain away recorded miracles in scientific or mythological terms so that they don't look ridiculous to non-believers.

Why do we do this? How do we know Croyle can't be a Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman? Well those guys had great stats in college and were high draft picks. Lets ask 'How do we know that Croyle isn't a Joe Montana or Brett Favre or Tom Brady?'

The truth is, NOBODY knew Joe Montana was going to turn into Joe Montana in the NFL, otherwise he would never have fallen to the 3rd round. Nobody knew Tom Brady was going to become possibly the most successful QB in NFL history, otherwise 32 teams wouldn't have passed on him 5 or 6 times. The Atlanta Falcons certainly didn't know Brett Favre was going to be a future Hall of Famer when then head coach Jerry Glanville said it would take a plane crash for him to put Favre into the game and traded him away.

Nobody knows how a college player is going to translate to the NFL. Ryan Leaf was considered by many to be a better QB prospect than Peyton Manning. The Chiefs picked Todd Blackledge over Jim Kelly and the Jets took Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino. Sometimes it takes these young guys to develop and blossom into what they are going to become.

I think Ben Roethlisberger is one of the very few young QBs in recent memory that grabbed the reigns of his team and took off with it never missing a beat. But he was in an unusual situation. The Steelers are probably the most stable and consistently talented teams in the NFL. There was no question of what the teams offensive identity was going to be, it had been the same for 30 years. They had an established offensive line with established running backs and lets face it, Roethlesburger was a quicker study than most.

But the Mannings, Aikmans, Elways and yes, Croyles; found themselves on teams largely devoid of a talented core. It took time for Aikman to develop a relationship with Irvine and have an Emmitt Smith to depend on with a reliable offensive line. It took time for Manning and Harrison and Edgerrin James to all gel together with a reliable offensive line. And it is going to take some time for Croyle, Bowe and LJ (or an unknown future RB) to gel together with a reliable offensive line.

The QB is the most important position on the offensive side of the ball. But one guy can't do it all. Croyle will not be able to block for himself or catch his own passes or plough through the line. The pieces must be around him and they all have to learn to work together.

It seems that the national media has forgotten this. They (and many Chiefs fans) are so easily distracted by shiny things (the overhyped college prospect of the day) that they take for granted that some of the greatest QBs in the NFL were overlooked until they got the chance to prove themselves. Maybe Croyle didn't have the shining college stats playing for the conservative Alabama Crimson Tide that a Matt Leinart playing for a national championship college team had.

But that doesn't matter. What matters is what he does now. I for one am done making excuses for the hope I have in Croyle. I will not be cynical and view him as a failure until he proves me wrong. I will view him as a potential Joe Montana or Brett Favre until he proves he's not.

Jared, Jr: Brian Johnston

sunny D — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:08:18 -0000

Player to watch: DE Brian Johnston, Chiefs 7th round pick
College: Gardner-Webb
Height: 6-5 Weight: 274
Projected Round: 4

Some senior year stats:

24 stops for loss
6 sacks and 22 QB pressures
8 tackles on goal line plays
4 fourth down stops
played left end

Coming from Gardner-Webb (like Idaho State), can he play at the NFL level? If so, how fast can he get into the line-up? And can we remember that Jared Allen didn't play at last year's level in his rookie year? (only 39 tackles, but a respectable 9 sacks) Some people projected Brian to play DT in the NFL. Don't think that's the plan in KC, but it tells me he's got some beef.

So is it Turks time to shine? Can Boone find a new gear and play DE? Or will a possible Johnston, Johnson, Flowers trio on the defensive left side have opposing RBs looking for the sideline in a hurry to avoid the hurt?

Does DE Johnston start at any point this year?

Glenn Dorsey

KcPriest31 — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:12:10 -0000

Just a couple of questions i had, and was wondering what the chiefs world out there thought. How much respect do you think Glenn "SwampThing" Dorsey will get from the start of the season? double teams? i really dont know who else they would. It would be nice to see dorsey and boone taking up the middle Is Dorsey going to be to camp on time? Last one what kind of sack numbers he'll put up?

First post let me know what im doing wrong..

Who's most pressing to get in camp?

Lanier63 — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:38:29 -0000

I have thought about this awhile this morning and would like to open it up for discussion. Although Dorsey is our #1 overall pick and will help make this defense what Gun has been licking his lips for, who is more pressing to get into camp on time.

Glen Dorsey or Brandon Albert?

Both have their pros and cons, so what are your thoughts?

Personally I believe it is imperative to get Albert into camp the first day, only from the standpoint of having a chance for the Offensive line to have more time to become "one" unit together. In no way am I suggesting a slight on Dorsey and his importance however. Since we were so poor with line play last year and have up to 4 new starters (position wise) I think it is most important to get this group their courting time.

Respect for DJ

sunny D — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:16:21 -0000

via cache.daylife.com

Derrick Johnson led the Chiefs in tackles for a loss in 2007.

But who led the league in tackles for a loss in 2007? Derrick Johnson with 14.

Additionally, DJ's 2007 numbers include:

4 sacks
3 forced fumbles
2 interceptions
6 passes defended
100+ tackles

Are our expectations so high for this first-round pick that nothing short of league MVP will make us feel like 56 has done an outstanding job? Or maybe players are only labeled as "making plays" if we win the game? Perhaps his lack of tantrums and off-field problems hurts his publicity compared to the bad-boys who grab NFL headlines? Or is the only measure of individual success the number of Pro Bowl votes?

In an earlier AP post, Direckshun already pointed out that DJ has done well.

The third and last reason that DJ will be a Pro Bowler in 2008 is that he's already played like one last year. I believe that DJ was a Top 5 strongside linebacker last year. But every OLB that made the AFC Pro Bowl squad came from a 3-4 defense, which provides their OLBs to rush the QB with abandon and put up huge numbers.

I'm not observing the praise and admiration that I would expect to hear about production such as his. Here's hoping that DJ tips a pass to himself and runs it back for a TD this year. Makes a late-game hit for a forced fumble that results in a winning defensive TD. Or produces a couple of other signature, highlight reel plays to go along with his excellent body of work that put him on the map of respected NFL linebackers in 2008. Thanks for your great effort your first three years, DJ, and the hustle it takes to make tackles on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

What will it take for DJ's name to be more prominent, in your opinion?

Other NFL Stadiums

skibum1537 — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:51:22 -0000

Fellow BCBer's,

I set an informal goal for the year that i was going to see a sporting event at 10 different venues this year. To that end, i think that i am going to have to see our KANSAS CITY CHIEFS in at least one, if not two other stadiums this year. I am going to be in Atlanta for that week and am thinking about making the trip to Denver to go watch our chiefs pound the donkeys.

Does anyone have any other suggestions on a good stadium to see a game at? Has anyone seen one at the Georgia Dome or Invesco and know anything about them?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. (Only about 1 week until our boys go to training camp) I can't wait to roll my bus back up to one arrowhead drive

Missing names

WolfFan — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:26:14 -0000

Did anyone notice there are a couple of missing names on this mornings roster? David Greene and Chris McDuffie are no longer listed. I didn't really expect them on the final roster, but I thought they would make camp and maybe the practice squad.

I did see one accounting that had Chris on the 53 man roster. It looks like the pre training camp cuts may have started.

This is my first post. If I should have done something different, let me know.

Wesley Gone...

mikvogel — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:28:06 -0000

CHIEFS RELEASE SAFETY GREG WESLEY

Posted by Mike Tunison on July 17, 2008, 3:40 p.m.

League sources have told Pro Football Talk that the Kansas City Chiefs have released free safety Greg Wesley.

The 9th year safety, who has played his entire career to this point with the Chiefs, appeared in 15 games last season, started one and made 30 tackles. The Chiefs’ 3rd round pick in 2000 has 29 career interceptions.

Wesley, who is repped by Drew Rosenhaus, is expected to receive interest from a number of teams in the free agent market.

GREG WESLEY RELEASED!

thechiefsarrow — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:28:10 -0000

League sources have told Pro Football Talk that the Kansas City Chiefs have released free safety Greg Wesley. The 9th year safety, who has played his entire career to this point with the Chiefs, appeared in 15 games last season, started one and made 30 tackles. The Chiefs’ 3rd round pick in 2000 has 29 career interceptions. Wesley, who is repped by Drew Rosenhaus, is expected to receive interest from a number of teams in the free agent market.

- Pro Football Talk

All of a sudden, drafting DaJuan Morgan makes a lot more sense.

Aloha

bigbearomaha — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:46:02 -0000

heya folks.

I've been absent a bit. Things have been very busy and I don't get to do everything I always want to do. I am here now though and ready to get all the info on the Chiefs and their new season.

Looks like the new site is very nicely, good job Chris and everyone.

I plan to brush up on this seasons O line and drop my two cents when I can, where I can.

I'll be back.

Big Bear

Kevin Robinson & Brian Johnston Signed!!!

thechiefsarrow — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:44:27 -0000

More Signings.... ABOUT TIME!!! Now we need to get Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, and the rest signed.

Kansas City Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Wednesday that the club has agreed to terms of three-year contracts with draft choices WR Kevin Robinson and DE Brian Johnston. As per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreements were made available. Robinson and Johnston were the fourth and fifth Chiefs draft choices to agree to contract terms, joining fourth-round selection WR Will Franklin (105th overall), fifth-round selection CB Brandon Carr (140th overall) and sixth-round pick T Barry Richardson (170th overall).

Robinson (5-11 196) joined the Chiefs as the club’s second of two sixth-round selections (182nd overall) in the 2008 NFL Draft. He saw action in 46 contests (32 starts) at Utah State, catching 178 passes for 2,485 yards (14.0 avg.). He also handled the return duties, setting Utah State career records for punt return yards (1,104), punt returns TDs (four), kickoff returns (110), kickoff return yards (2,725), and kickoff return TDs (four).

Robinson started all 12 contests for the Aggies in 2007, logging 55 receptions for 640 yards (11.6) with five TDs. He set the NCAA mark for kickoff return yards in a season with 1, 1260 yards with three returns for TDs.

The Fresno, California native was an all-league selection at Hoover High School. He caught 69 passes for 1,214 yards with 14 touchdowns as a senior.

Johnston (6-4, 269) joined the Chiefs as the club’s first of two seventh-round picks (210th overall) in the 2008 NFL Draft. He played in 42 games (40 starts) during his four-year career at Gardner-Webb, registering 268 tackles (124 solo), 21.0 sacks (-140.0 yards) and 55.5 tackles for loss (-257.0 yards). He also had 69 QB pressures, 10 forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries and one blocked kick. On offense, he added a three-yard TD reception.

Johnston started all 11 games in each of his final three seasons. In 2006, he recorded 77 tackles (35 solo), 8.0 sacks (-47.0 yards), 14.0 tackles for loss, 23 QB pressures, two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery.

The San Diego, California native was a two-time first-team All-Harbor League selection at Madison High School. He was a member of the San Diego Union-Tribune All-Academic Team and was a High School Heisman nominee."

Samie Parker is a GOD!

PVChiefsfan — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:52:59 -0000

In the preview of the Donkeys, the mothership missed an absolutely hilarious typo

Added to the roster were free agent receivers Keary Colbert from Carolina (32 catches for 332 yards and no touchdowns), Darrell Jackson from San Francisco (46-497-3) and former Chiefs receiver Samie Parker (2-298-2).

Apparently, in addition to the amazing skills of dropping every other pass, never showing us his blazing speed, and kneeling down to end the game, Samie Parker managed to find a way to turn his two receptions into TD's AND run more than the length of the football field on at least one of those.

On a serious note, the preview isn't too shabby (check it out) and I really hope that Parker doesn't play for the Donkeys like Kennison did for us after leaving Denver.

Calling All Writers

Chris — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:03:08 -0000

Alright, AP readers. I need your help.

From August 4th to August 17th, I will be traveling to India on behalf of the international NGO I work for. I can't guarantee I'll have daily internet access and I definitely cannot guarantee that I will have time to post while I'm there.

This is where you come in. I need at least one person each day to commit to posting a FanPost that we can use for discussion. It can be on any topic you'd like. Our editor Primetime will still be in control of the site while I'm gone, adding content and keeping everything clean. But he can't do it all on his own.

I don't think there will be a shortage of things to talk about, since training camp will have begun by then and there will be two preseason games while I'm gone. There probably won't be a shortage of other FanPosts as well but I need to guarantee something for you while I'm not around.

I will also be speaking with some our other regular contributors to see if they'll be able to bring their regular stuff to the table while I'm gone.

So, even without this list below of daily contributors, you'd still be in good hands. But I also want to use this time while I'm away to make the community tighter and this is a great way to do it.

Remember the AP Mock Draft? That was truly a community experience, with over thirty people participating and doing a great job at that.

So, let us know in the comment section what day you're interested in posting and I will update this list as it needs it. All you have to do on the day you choose is write a FanPost. Preferably on something interesting that others want to talk about.

You can ask any questions in the comment section as well.

Thanks!

Monday, August 4th

Tuesday, August 5th

Wednesday, August 6th

rockchalk

Thursday, August 7th Chiefs v. Bears @ 7 PM (open thread will automatically post at game time)

Friday, August 8th

Dono

Monday, August 11th

Tuesday, August 12th

Wednesday, August 13th

Thursday, August 14th

Friday, August 15th

Saturday, August 16th Chiefs v. Cardinals @ 7 PM (open thread will automatically post at game time)

Ben S

Sunday, August 17th

Lanier63

Interesting LJ Video

Ben S — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:34:28 -0000

[Updated the code in the video so it actually plays here. And now I'm typing a bit so I can get to the 75 word minimum on FanPosts, which counted the previous code as words when Ben posted this. And we're at 78 now. -Chris]

Notice Carl Peterson near the beginning of the movie giving a classic Carl Peterson look. Sure doesn't look to interested in anything at the time, let alone our current starting runningback.